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After a whirlwind of cheating rumors, an elevator fight, and the subsequent iconic music releases from the Carter-Knowles clan, Jay-Z & Beyonce‘s marital challenges are still making headlines. Hov sat down for an interview with the New York Times and shed some light on everything leading up to “Lemonade” and “4:44,” two albums that will undoubtedly go down in music history.

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Jay explained the emotional turmoil he was going through leading up to his infidelities, and where it all stemmed from. He cited growing up in the hood, and the complex relationship men from neighborhoods like that have with their own emotions. Click on the audio player to hear more in this exclusive clip from Gary’s Tea on “The Rickey Smiley Morning Show.”

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